e-mail sent to all PCC candidates:
Dear PCC candidate,
I am writing to request your position on drug policy. I am interested to know, as a prospective Police and Crime Commissioner, what would be your priorities if you were to be voted in to the position?
In a recent survey by the United Kingdom Drug Policy Commission (UKDPC) it was found that 75% of incumbent MPs do not believe our current drug strategy to be an effective policy. There’s a growing call from scientists, politicians, medical professionals, senior law enforcement, the International Federation of Red Cross, to cite a few of those who seek an empirical evidence based approach based on science, health, and human rights.
There has also recently been clarification from the Crown Prosecution Service with regard to Sentencing Council guidelines, which now state that those with debilitating illness and chronic conditions are to receive discretionary clemency with regards to medicinal use of cannabinoids.
With this in mind, I would therefore ask you to describe your approach to drug policy, your attitude to the enforcement of drug laws, and what priorities and reprioritisations you may have. I would also ask you specifically to comment on your position on medicinal use of cannabis, defined in the previous paragraph.
With kind regards
NORML UK
www.norml-uk.org
Replies from PCC candidates
Avon and Somerset Pete Levy Liberal Democrat
Dear Des
I’m really sorry. I thought I’d replied to you and just realised it hadn’t gone. This is an area about which I feel strongly. I have put up a blog on my web site but here is the copy I’ve used:
Treating drug and alcohol addiction as a health, not a criminal issue is a good starting point in reducing re-offending. The amount of acquisitive criminality (crimes in which an offender acquires or takes items from another person) that result from drug addiction, the cost to businesses and individuals, the pressure on support networks and, most significantly, the impact on the lives of victims is staggering. Drugs are an issue that need tackling now.
Giving evidence at the House of Commons Select Committee earlier this year, the celebrity Russell Brand spoke candidly of his own addictions and experiences with drugs. His approach being that addicts should be treated and dealers should be punished. He also outlined a widely held believe that investment in treating addiction now will ensure significant savings in the future.
It’s time to make my views on this absolutely clear. This constructive approach must not be mistaken for a soft approach to those that break the law. Wanting a strategic approach to continue reducing the effects of drugs and alcohol addiction on society doesn’t affect one significant fact. That is, that the law exists in its current state and the Chief Constable, responsible for operational policing, will direct his officers to uphold the law. He will ensure that anyone breaking the law will be dealt with and brought before the appropriate body. I will work with him and his team as well as partnership organisations to ensure that our laws are upheld and our communities are safe. We will collectively do all in our power to maintain the current overall trend of improving crime figures.
I have read of candidates declaring a ‘zero tolerance’ on drugs. This is an empty two-worded political slogan without substance. We need to support upholding the law as it exists whilst looking at root causes of acquisitive crime.
It is about education, prevention and rehabilitation, not just punishment
Regarding the issue of medical use of cannabis, this isn’t an area that we need to spend valuable police resources chasing! I’ve had a couple of meetings here in Bristol with Danny Kushlick from the Transform Drug Policy Foundation and I think there is a lot more to be done to turn the tide on this and start to lead the way rather than fall behind.
I’ve also outlined the need for a policy officer. This is a post we had on the Police Authority staff to advise regarding existing legislation but i think we can be more proactive and this is contained in my manifesto (attached)
There will be occasions when we will need to look at legislation and how the effective policing of it impacts on our communities and resources. I anticipate having a dedicated Policy Officer within the PCC’s office to maintain a watch on emerging legislation but also allowing us to work with the Chief Constable and other Police organisations to challenge and lobby for changes to existing legislation as appropriate.
Hope that clarifies the situation and sorry again for the delay
Best regards
Pete
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Liberal Democrats
Freepost RSKZ-STLK-BUYA
Bristol BS7 8ND
Greater Manchester Roy Warren Independent

As a current magistrate and past Chairman of the Trafford Bench I have a wealth of experience in dealing with the judiciary, police, Crown Prosecution Service and all other related agencies incorporating detection, sentencing, punishment and rehabilitation of the criminals who blight our society.
Arming the Police:
The very recent and tragic incident which resulted in the loss of two brave and dedicated police officers highlighted yet again the contentious question of whether our police officers should be routinely armed. I make no apology for unequivocally stating that I am totally opposed to officers being armed and I believe that is also the strongly held view of the overwhelming majority of police officers. Tourists to this country often express surprise that the bobby on the beat does not carry a gun. That is something to be proud of and a reason to protect the status quo. Despite being opposed to armed police I do believe the police and the general public should be protected from criminals who routinely arm themselves with a variety of weapons, including now machine guns and hand grenades. I believe the public can play a vital part in assisting the police by reporting any suspicions or first-hand knowledge they may have of weapons being held by criminals or gang members and I would look to encourage that. I also think that much tighter controls should be introduced at our ports to prevent the smuggling of guns, especially from the eastern European countries. I strongly support tougher sentences for gun related crime but that of course is a matter for parliament.
The Drugs Debate:
Despite a growing opinion that some drugs should be reclassified I do not support that view. Drug dealing and addiction lead to an escalation of associated criminal activity, particularly in acquisitive crime such as street robberies and burglaries used to fund drug habits. The police and Her Majesty’s Customs do an excellent job in detecting drug importation and prevent much of it reaching the streets. They will receive my unstinting support in their continuing war against drugs. However, I do feel there should also be a greater understanding of the misery and spiralling effect of drug addiction and would certainly support greater resources being directed at drug intervention and rehabilitation programmes.
An Englishman’s Home is his Castle:
Another current topic of debate and one that certainly polarises opinion is the right of the householder to defend or protect themselves from intruders. I do not believe that a change in the law is necessary, simply a sensible interpretation of it. A threatened householder is entitled to use reasonable force to defend their home and family and that should continue. The public perception has been that the law errs on the side of the burglar. That cannot be right and recent advice from the Director of Public Prosecutions has reaffirmed the right of the public to defend themselves and their property. We must though guard against any thoughts of vigilantism and recognise that the police are the guardians of the public and the enforcers of law and order. They in turn need the support and protection of both parliament and the justice system. With me as your Police Commissioner you and they can be certain of my support as well.
The Way Forward:
The Greater Manchester Police Force has a right to expect the unwavering support of the Police Commissioner but they also should have the support and trust of the general, law abiding public. I do understand though at times that support and trust can be strained. I will encourage greater use of Safer Community meetings that are already in place and currently attended by police, Borough Council representatives, a magistrate observer and the Probation Service. Whilst it is true the police need to understand the public’s fears and concerns they in turn need to understand the pressures the police are under, particularly in terms of targeting and budget cutting exercises. Greater dialogue at these forums will encourage that and forge stronger bonds between the police and their principle stakeholders. And that ladies and gentlemen can only lead to a stronger and safer Greater Manchester.
I urge you to cast your vote on November the 15th for the only candidate that is not politically affiliated, is passionately proud of Greater Manchester, want to give the police the support they deserve and with your backing make our city and region the envy of all others in the country. Vote for Roy Warren, Vote for A Safer Greater Manchester.
Greater Manchester Matt Gallagher Liberal Democrates
Dear Des,
Thank you for getting in touch. In response to your questions I would say that the present drugs policy isn’t working, and this is reinforced by the recent report by the UK Drug Policy Commission, an independent advisory body, who’s findings I broadly concur with.
The report recommends that drugs policy should be guided by the facts, and decisions made by an independent body, not politicians. The Runcimann report makes recommendations on the approach to cannabis use that I completely agree with.
Police actions are currently driven by the existing law, the demands of the Home Office and complaints from the public. By altering the legislation to reflect changing attitudes and approaches to the problem, the police response will change accordingly. To date, leadership on drugs issues has been driven by a political agenda and populist appeal which is not always in sinc with the evidence.
I have stated in my manifesto (see Matt4PCC.org) that I will appoint an Assistant Commissioner For Young People to establish links with this group (10% of the population are aged between 18 and 24, but they are increasingly alienated by an out-of-touch justice system that has a largely negative view of this demographic). The APCC for young people must be appointed by, and work with, young people in our various communities, to build trust and faith in the justice system, and represent their issues and concerns within that system. After all, they are the adults and leaders of tomorrow and they should have a voice in that future.
The large scale importation and distribution of drugs by organised crime and by certain business people who see it as a lucrative investment must remain a priority for the police. But I take the view that those who become addicted to their ‘wares’ are in many ways victims of this exploitation, and need support to tackle their addiction. Drug dealing is a business that relies on a customer base. Shrink the customer base and you damage the business.
The biggest challenges facing the police today are drugs and mental health, and the failure of the NHS to tackle these two problems effectively. Some drugs are more harmful than others, and cannabis is at the lower end of that scale. How society approaches their use must be evidence driven, and help and support should come first, not punishment and alienation.
I hope that this response gives you a better idea of my approach to this issue.
Wiltshire Colin Skelton Independent
Des
I’ll get my response in quick.
You mentioned a lot of people who state our current drugs policy is not working, you missed out the Presidents of Guatemala and Columbia. I know one thing for certain, after spending nearly £30 billion on this problem drugs are more freely available than ever. So the current system does not work. What will? Well I don’t have the answer but I would lobby for and support a Royal Commission on drugs policy to be set up and to report within 8 months on a way forward with regards to how we would Police drugs in the UK. This would have to be, as you say, evidence and science based, take the hysterics out of it.
My stance on drugs were I to be elected would be that we would apply the law fairly and consistently under the rule of law.
Kind regards
Mr. Colin Skelton
Independent Candidate for Wiltshire Police and Crime Commissioner
Nottinghamshire Dr Raj Chandran
Dear Des,
As a Gp I have dealt with cannabis users.
I am aware of the UKDPC survey
As a PCC I am unable to comment on the Judiciary Policies as I do not think PCCs can make a decision on this.
The duties remain with Parliament.
Can we have a dialogue after the election on this matter. I have dealt with drug users all my GP life and I sympathise
with their predicament.
Let us get a clearer picture of the duties and powers of the PCC on the question of drugs after the election.
Regards
Raj
Nottinghamshire Malcolm Spencer Independent
Dear Mr Des Humphrey
Thank you for contacting me
Tackling substance abuse, especially alcohol cannot be done by the Police alone. Invariably the Police deal with the outcome of substance abuse whether it is drugs or alcohol. The impact of this especially that of alcohol abuse can be seen on a regular basis in the News. Alcohol is the primary driver for violence and disorder (Recent Government figures show that nearly there was nearly 1 million alcohol related crimes of violence reported across in England and Wales). The UK rates high in underage drinking within Europe.
Yet while some £10 million are allocated to drug abuse issues only a fraction of this is targeted towards alcohol abuse.
While it is absolutely necessary for the Police to detect and arrest offenders it is important yet again to recognise that this approach of itself will not resolve the problem. Indeed policing the users of illegal substances is merely dealing with the symptoms of the problem.
It is the manufacturers, importers and suppliers of these substances that have to be tackled as well as seeking ways to provide support and facilities to assist the abuser to be able to become free from reliance on drugs and alcohol.
On a National Level I will ensure that Nottinghamshire Police continues to focus some of its attention and resources on restricting the supply of drugs by contributing intelligence and support to Border Control and, as will working together with the New National Crime Agency which will include the Serious and Organised Crime Agency. This is stipulated in the Shadow Strategic Policing Requirement produced by the Home Secretary.
On a local front I consider the abuse of alcohol as being the main disruptive element causing a wide range of concerns for the public. It is an accepted fact that the abuse of alcohol features in many aspect of crime and certainly disorder. It is a prevalent factor in a high number of Domestic Abuse cases, offences of violence and criminal damage as well as the more obvious disorder that is all too often prevalent in the Cities, towns and even smaller communities in Nottinghamshire.
Cheap alcohol encourages young people to leave for a night out having already raised their alcohol limits by pre drinking.
It is therefore common-sense that officers should be deployed prior to the clubs and pubs turning out so that they can meet and greet arrivals into the City and Towns of Nottinghamshire and recognise potential problem individuals before incidents of disorder occur. In this way they can seek to deter such activity before it takes place.
It is also a problem in that the age at which alcohol abuse is being identified is getting younger, some as young as 9 or 10. Much of this drinking occurs outside of the towns and the City. Neighbourhood Patrol Officers need to monitor such behaviour and identify where young people congregate.
There must be regular monitoring of off-licenses and other premises selling alcohol to ensure that they are complying with the law as regards selling to under age individuals
Merely applying the criminal law to this problem is not going to solve it.
We are going to need to work with a variety of partnerships and agencies to seek to tackle the root causes of substance abuse.
I will meet with all current Statutory partnerships and volunteer groups to seek opinions and advice as to what additional initiatives and resources can be identified to tackle substance abuse. these will include
Crime and Drugs Partnerships
Drug and Alcohol Action Team
Domestic Abuse Support Team
Victim Support
The Safer Nottinghamshire Board
South Notts Community Safety Partnership
Youth Offending Service
Primary care Trusts
National Health Boards
Family Practitioners
The Crown Prosecution Service
Local Authorities
Local Education Authorities and Boards
Social Services
The Probation Service
The Prison Service
This is not necessarily an exhaustive list of interested parties who can provide a positive impact on reducing the effects of substance abuse and even more importantly determine effective means and programmes to prevent and educate people from such activity.
Although, unfortunately, Nottinghamshire has not been included in the grant provided for under the Government’s national ‘Alcohol Strategy and Drug Strategy’
These include
Funding to tackle binge drinking and underage drinking
Maintaining the focus on restricting the supply of drugs
Support to treatment centres so as to provide help for abusers to be helped to stop.
Better enforcement of the drug driving law.
Local Agencies to be given powers so as to reduce the harm alcohol causes by changes to public health and Licensing Acts.
A late night levy on licensed premises, to ensure, that those selling alcohol into the night, contribute towards the cost of policing disturbances. With this I would rather it be more evidenced based, targeting irresponsible businesses so that it acts more as a deterrent and encouragement to reducing the impact of alcohol abuse. Otherwise a blanket levy will merely be absorbed by higher prices and not act to prevent the anti-social impact. Ultimately the sanction should be loss of license to trade.
Work with the NHS for substance abuse treatment to reduce incidents
I will see that the Chief Constable is provided with appropriate funding to implement and promote the good practice this strategy identifies.
With regard to your question as to the medicinal use of cannabis if proven medical evidence testifies to the benefits of using this are correct (I am certainly not qualified to answer that) then I see no reason why it is not put on the register of prescribed drugs. You will be aware that there are a whole host of drugs on this register that without proper medical prescription would otherwise be illegal to be possessed and taken. Why should cannabis be treated in any other way.
It is substance abuse that needs to be tackled not properly managed substance use.
Kind Regards
Malcolm Spencer LLB
Northamptonshire Paul Varnsverry Liberal Democrat
Dear Mr Humphrey,
Thank you for your email and for taking the time to write to me. I note my counterpart in the Greater Manchester Police area, Matt Gallagher, has already responded to you and I largely concur with what he has said; however, I wanted to personally acknowledge your email.
I would add further to what Matt has stated that I am not convinced those who call for legalisation of drugs have thought their proposals through. The suggestion is that this would remove the manufacture, distribution and marketing of drugs from the hands of organised crime. The comparison I draw here is in respect of the number of seizures of tobacco and alcohol which occur when those items are imported illegally, without the requisite duties and taxes being paid. I fail to see how legalising other drugs could be any different and there would still be those who would wish to continue supplying drugs illegally at less than the price set through any proposed legal framework.
Yours sincerely,
Paul Varnsverry
Liberal Democrat candidate for
Northamptonshire Police & Crime Commissioner
Sussex David Roger Liberal Democrates
Dear Mr Humphrey,
In short, I fully support evidence-based policy, as you describe. That extends to medicinal use, again as you set out.
However, you will be aware that it is Parliament that decides upon the legal position, not whoever is elected as PCC for Sussex. It will be incumbent upon the successful candidate to discuss these issues fully with the Chief Constable and other local partners such as the CPS.
Regards,
David Rogers.
Sussex Ian Chisnall Independent
Sussex Godfrey Daniel Labour
NORML UK
https://norml-uk.org
Surrey Kevin Hurley Independent
Thank you for contacting me. I have referenced drug related crime in my manifesto available on this link:http://www.julieiles.org.uk/news/manifesto
You will see from there that I believe the key to breaking drug related crime is to reduce the cycle of dependency. My own view is that prescription addiction is still addiction and abstinence is what should be aimed for. Personally I believe cannabis is a dangerous gateway drug and exacerbates any pre-disposition to mental health issues. That said if I am elected as Police & Crime Commissioner my focus will be on preventing crime. I will not have influence over arrest or charging decisions and neither will I have input to sentencing in the criminal justice system so the use of discretionary clemency remains elsewhere for others to judge the position on medicinal use.
I’m sorry my answer is brief but election day is upon us and time is short.
Regards
Julie Iles
Surrey Police & Crime Commissioner Candidate
2 Royal Parade, Tilford Road, Hindhead, GU26 6TD
Telephone: 07591 005993
facebook.com/julieiles4surreypcc
@JIles4PCC
You’ve just had a reply from my colleague Matt Gallagher which reflects my own views.
Cambridgeshire Rupert Moss-Eccardt Liberal Democrates
Des,
Thank you for the email. Unsurprisingly you will find my views to be broadly similar to those expressed by Matt in his reply to you.
I have made no commitment to assistants or deputies in Cambridgeshire, though.
We do need an evidence-based, health-led approach with a structured transition.
Regards
Rupert
Devon and Cornwall Brian Blake Liberal Democrates
Hi My view on the current position on illegal drugs is this. As an ex copper I have seen those who deal misery and addiction to young people for their own profit are parasites feeding off the vunerable. I agree that based on medical evidence there is an argument for cannabis as a treatment for some conditions. Legalise drugs per se and Boots for example will be undercut on price by those who still wish to make a profit thus making it a revenue offence. What we must bear in mind that the same people who smuggle cannabis and the like also smuggle weapons and people. Make no mistake drug dealing is a nasty business I have in the past dealt with dealers who only interest is profit for themselves.
Regards Brian Blake
Devon and Cornwall Graham Calderwood Independent
As the election for Police and Crime Commissioner approaches I am receiving a very high level of emails.
I have placed a number of Frequently Asked Questions on my web site and would ask you to look there for answers on my skills for the role of PCC, privatisation of the police, animal crime and many others.
I will be reading my emails but if the answer to your question is on my web site I would ask you to understand if I do not respond to each one.
Should I be elected, as soon as possible I will be setting up a system to give a personal response to your questions and suggestions.
Best wishes
Tony Hogg
Tony Hogg
Conservative Candidate for
Police and Crime Commissioner for Devon and CornwallM: 07799661795www.tonyhogg.com
Tweet: @tonyhogg2012
Dear Des, I would be happy to support some controlled and medicinal use of cannabis - however I am absolutely against the use of skunk or similar drugs which so much trouble many of our young and also older populations. There is an argument for the decriminalisation of drugs. Note the distinction. Not legalisation. Pushers would still be arrested but users would not be pursued and drugs abuse would be treated more as an illness than a crime. The new Police and Crime Commissioner has the power to set police targets and could de-facto decriminalise drugs use whilst still pursuing drug dealers. This would not be my way even though it has much to commend it. All the same, the drugs issue is one I intend to examine most carefully if elected.I will set up a working group on the drugs issue and will take advice on the subject. You can see my approach on my blog which links below: _http://www.southwestjustice.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/children-and-drugs-and-alcohol.html_ (http://www.southwestjustice.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/children-and-drugs-and-alcohol.html) See: _http://www.southwestjustice.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/drugs-top-priority.html_ (http://www.southwestjustice.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/drugs-top-priority.html) Best wishes William --- William Morris, Independent Candidate Police and Crime Commissioner, Devon Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly
South Wales Michael Baker Independent
Hello Des
Thank you for the message, I broadly concur with what Matt Gallagher has said, drug use is at various levels amongst different people and dependent on the drug of preference. I agree that the drug importers are the main target for the drug enforcement arm of the approach as they are the causes of the problem. as to users they are as Matt has indicated to a large extent victims and they need a softer approach. addiction is a major problem and the current drug strategy does not appear to be working. I do not consider that cannabis is a drug that should be de-criminalised as I believe it is dangerous and can drive some users towards more serious drugs. I do though understand the medicinal benefits for certain people and would support its prescription in those cases. We none of us know the full answer to the problem and more research into the effects may well assist. As to my priorities I would be looking to target the dealers at whatever level and look towards more education for youngsters at schools etc in an effort to steer them away from the experiment with drugs or from peer pressure.
I hope this helps
Kindest Regards
Michael A Baker
Independent Candidate for Police & Crime Commissioner for South Wales
Durham Kingsley Smith Independent
Dear Des
My main concern about drugs is trafficking and I believe the Police need to work hard and get high success rates in this area
With regard to drug users I believe in many cases they are the victims and I fully support the drug action activities designed to help users get off drugs. I also support the police working with the community and other agencies to maximise the success of this
Obviously some drug users can be very violent and commit burglary and other serious crimes and the police need to act appropriately to protect the public
With regard to the legal issues about drugs there are others much more qualified than me to give a view but I do believe that from time to time current policies should be reviewed
Hope this helps
Kingsley
Derbyshire Alan Charles Labour
Dear Des – This is an exceptionally complex area and you have alluded to that in your email, and it does not deserve a ‘knee jerk’ response. Additionally the role of PCC is not one of law making, although I accept it will be a position of influence, particularly if there is significant support from PCCs for a given issue.
There are arguments for and against reforming drug legislation. The two main positives are taking drugs out of the hands of criminals and organised crime groups and assurances on product quality in relation to users’ health and safety. Contrary to this are the personal health risks of using drugs obtained from licensed supply outlets, in the same way that alcohol and tobacco is causing massive health problems for hundreds of thousands of drinkers and smokers. To be absolutely honest I sit somewhere in the middle of this debate and would personally need far more research evidence based on science, health, and human rights to quote from your email.
Having said that, if the medical evidence is there, I do not think cannabis users with prescribed medical conditions should face prosecution.
Regarding law enforcement; my position is where criminals and organised crime groups are selling drugs on our streets they should face the full force of the law. This is on the basis that these activities cause significant problems and anxieties for local communities and fund other illegal activities.
Whilst this may not be totally in accord with your views I do assure that I have an open mind on this issue.
Please do not publish any of this email out of context.
Alan Charles
North Yorkshire Ruth Potter Labour
best wishes,
Ruth
Northumbria Vera Baird QC
thanks for this note. could I ask who is requesting this? are you an elector in Northumbria?
Hello Vera,
I am writing on behalf of NORML UK (National Organisation for the Reform of Marijuana Laws), an organisation that represents the whole of the UK, so I have emailed every single Police and Crime Commissioner candidate. Many of our members and supporters are unwilling to email the candidates personally due to the nature of the questions and the possibility that they might bring suspicion upon themselves, even if they have committed no crime. I am sure that you will be aware that asking questions to PCC candidates regarding illegal drugs might make some wary of passing over personal details such as their name or address, especially if they have had negative experiences of interactions with the police in the past. This is especially the case for disabled medical cannabis users, who have a medically supported need to possess and use cannabis on a regular basis. In some cases, people with doctor’s letters testifying that they have no other means to treat their conditions have had their doors knocked down regardless. I would therefore ask you to answer the questions we have posed, for both the benefit of Northumbria residents as wellas the general public. I am sure that if I were to commit a crime in Sussex than the Sussex police would arrest me regardless of my residency, and as a police commissioner you would be a national figure as well as a regional one.
Regards,
Des Humphrey
Medical Director (Veterans) NORML UK https://norml-uk.org
Hi thanks, I am very happy to help but can't give it priority since I have a lot of direct requests and queries from my electors in these last two weeks of the campaign so all I can say is that I will do my best good wishes Vera.
Dear Des, > > Please see thread at the end of this link: > http://kiron4commissioner.com/key-principles-and-key-policies/ > > Unfortunately the search engine on the website / blog is not very good so the two links to discussion drugs policy I realise don't come up on a search. > > I note that you do not say what norml-UK is. If you have supporters / friends / contacts on Merseyside please do forward the link to them. > > Best wishes, > > Kiron Reid. > > Independent candidate for Merseyside PCC. > > 48 Abbeygate Apartments, > High Street, > Liverpool > L15 8HB > > 00 44 (0)151 7340707 > www.Kiron4Commissioner.com > > www.kironreid.co.uk
Thank you Kiron,
Many thanks for this. This is a brief reply as you will appreciate the volume of email that I am getting. If I get elected we can carry on this dialogue. Obviously there are lots of points we won't agree on, and I can't change the law, but it is a useful discussion to be having. Good luck yourself, Kiron Reid. www.Kiron4Commissioner.com www.kironreid.co.uk
Humberside Godfrey Boom UKIP
Greetings and thank you for your enquiry.
Where to start, excuse my brevity but time is short. It is my personal belief we need a bottom up reassessment of our drugs policy nationally. We as politicians must understand current policy has failed. As indeed did prohibition of alcohol fail in the US in the 1920’s.
Criminalizing addicts is clearly ludicrous. Drug related crime is significant, so it has turned into big business, a multibillion dollar international business so a radical solution is resisted the drugs abused are worth only pennies, yet your grandmother can be beaten up by an addict for £20 to feed his habit.
The resources sucked in are out of all proportion. We have to start again, I would suggest a Royal Commission with a blank sheet of paper. Prison is for bad and violent criminals not social misfits. As to my modest role as a PCC, with a limited remit I would put many things at the bottom of the priority list. You may make your own assessment of what they may be, but I am sure you get my drift.
Best wishes
Godfrey Bloom
Leistershire Salemun Nagdu Independent
Dear Mr Humphrey,
The police and crime commissioner is not able to change the law!
They do have a range of powers and can make reports and recommendations but for their area. This is
part of their role which includes setting out a strategic police and crime plan.Regards
Marion Mason
I won't be able to change the law - to do that we need our MPs to support a change, and I believe that our laws should be enforced. Laws reflect the type of society in which we wish to live, and if you believe in a pariamentary democracy (as I do) we cannot have a pick and mix approach to enforcement. However, you might be surprised to learn that I agree we should have a proper review of how drugs are policed in this country, and what the laws are. This should focus on the health costs of legalisation as well as the cost of enforcement (and of course the associated crime). There is also abig difference between the legalisation of a drug such as cannabis for medicinal purposes - which I suspect that most would accept - and the legalisation of highly dangerous class A drugs for recreational purposes. Unfortunately as your e:mail implies it is a subject around which few people are willing to engage in mature debate. If elected I would be interested in meeting up with you - let's see how we can get the debate going, Kind regards, David
Hampshire David Goodall Liberal Democrat
Hi Des,
Thanks for your email.
For my views on drugs see:-
http://davidgoodall.org.uk/en/page/drugs
On the medical use I think research needs to be done on how best to produce a medical product that could be prescribed the normal manner.
Hope the helps. For more information see my manifesto which is attached.
Best regards
David
Bedfordshire Linda Jack Liberal Democrat
Tim Starkey
Dear Mr Humphrey, While drugs remain illegal, I am duty-bound to enforce the law surrounding them. The PCC role is non-legislative and I will be bound by the law. That being said, the role of PCC is to establish strategic priorities for how the region is policed, and if a desire to not vigorously police possession and personal use of "soft" drugs such as cannabis is communicated I will of course respond to that accordingly. Likewise, if the majority of people in the Thames Valley want a very robust anti-drugs policing policy, it will be my job to deliver that regardless of my personal feelings on the matter. On a personal basis, I do not see cannabis use as any more damaging than excessive alcohol use (especially taking related criminal activity into account), with the exception of the difficulty that exists in establishing if a person is driving while under the influence of cannabis. When it comes to the medicinal attributes of cannabis, I think that this really needs to be looked at as a separate discussion aside from general decriminalisation, and again from a personal perspective I am sympathetic to it becoming more accessible. I have far stronger "anti" views when it comes to most other drugs however, and fully acknowledge concerns over cannabis use as a "gateway" to other drugs, which of course has to be addressed and taken into account. Beyond that, I think it is way past time for a grown-up, objective and un-emotive debate to be undertaken regarding national drug policy followed by a national referendum regarding the criminal status of certain drugs. Until such a debate takes place, I can honestly say that I do not know how I would cast my vote in such a referendum, but as stated, I am not adverse to the medicinal use of cannabis if properly monitored and regulated. I hope that answers your questions, but if you need further clarification or elaboration, please do not hesitate to contact me. Regards, Barry Cooper
Police and Crime Commissioner Candidate for Dyfed-Powys
Thank you for your message.
The police service exists to enforce the laws as enacted by Parliament according to the guidelines issued from time to time and cannot and, indeed, should not act beyond that guidance.
Yours sincerely
Sultan Alam
Independent PCC Candidate - Cleveland
Hampshire Don Jerrard Independent
Thank you for this. Drugs are a major concern to me, and as you will see from my manifesto and flyer (attached) I am determined to prioritise the question of drug-dealers while helping drug users.
The question of classification of drugs and legal medicinal use of them is frankly not something on which I have an opinion – that is a matter for the legislature, not the enforcement arm (the Police). However the PCC can set priorities, and I have made it quite clear that I do not consider the use of drugs should be a priority for the police. I have seen too many cases of the police getting convictions of drug-users to get the numbers up, while too often the dealers seem to go free.
I hope this helps and do not hesitate to get in touch if you have any further queries.
Regards,
Don Jerrard
PS I am very impressed by the approach Simon Hayes takes to drugs, a subject he knows much more about than me. If I do get elected I intend to invite Simon to take the position of Deputy PCC, so, if he accepted you would get two independents for the price of one! The important thing is to stop the politicians getting control of the police, which really must be avoided at all costs.
West Yorkshire Andrew Marchington Liberal Democrat
Thank you for getting in touch. In response to your questions I would say that the present drugs policy isn’t working, and this is reinforced by the recent report by the UK Drug Policy Commission, an independent advisory body, who’s findings I broadly concur with.
The report recommends that drugs policy should be guided by the facts, and decisions made by an independent body, not politicians. The Runcimann report makes recommendations on the approach to cannabis use that I completely agree with.
Police actions are currently driven by the existing law, the demands of the Home Office and complaints from the public. By altering the legislation to reflect changing attitudes and approaches to the problem, the police response will change accordingly. To date, leadership on drugs issues has been driven by a political agenda and populist appeal which is not always in sinc with the evidence.
The large scale importation and distribution of drugs by organised crime and by certain business people who see it as a lucrative investment must remain a priority for the police. But I take the view that those who become addicted to their ‘wares’ are in many ways victims of this exploitation, and need support to tackle their addiction. Drug dealing is a business that relies on a customer base. Shrink the customer base and you damage the business.
The biggest challenges facing the police today are drugs and mental health, and the failure of the NHS to tackle these two problems effectively. Some drugs are more harmful than others, and cannabis is at the lower end of that scale. How society approaches their use must be evidence driven, and help and support should come first, not punishment and alienation.
I hope that this response gives you a better idea of my approach to this issue.
Andrew Marchington



did they actually answer the question?
Hi Des,
Great work, I also contacted all of the local PCC candidates in Sussex, here is are the responses I received.
Sussex, Ian Chisnall - Independent
Hi Jasper
Thanks for the email. My position is of course based on the fact that I am not a legislator and have no role in setting rules on drugs. I am supportive of the approach taken by Sussex Police which is to tackle drug supply and dealing and encourage users to consider treatment rather than go through a criminal justice system that will not benefit them or socie
ty. For the record I am not personally supportive of relaxing the law on drugs, even though I recognise that if we started with a blank sheet of paper, alcohol would not be made freely available due to its impact on the lives of people in our society.
Best wishes
Ian Chisnall
Sussex Godfrey Daniel Labour
Dear Jasper
As I am involved in mental health work, I often witness the long-term effects of drugs on a person’s mental state - including cannabis psychosis. I also know well the motivation for many to regularly resort to acquisitive crime to fee
d addictions.
I tend to favour the conclusions of the recent report by the UK Drug Policy Commission (UKDPC) to replace criminal sanctions on simple posession of drugs (for personal use) with a civil penalty such as a fine or attendance at a drug awareness session. This would stop criminalising this level of behaviour. I also agree with the UKDPC when they say thart allowing the legal sale of drugs such as heroin or cocaine would cause more damage than the existing drugs trade.
That said, legislation in this area is a matter for Parliament and sentencing (such as for the case you quote) is a matter for the courts - the police have to enforce the law. In my view the focus of police activity in this area should be on those responsible for major production and/or supply of drugs ie on drug dealers that profit from the misery of others.
With the 20%+ government cuts in policing we need to establish very clear priorities, and I am not going to pretend that there are any simple answers. I support partnership working to help address addictions and would hope to further support this area of work by use of some community safety grant money which will be under the future control of the Police & Crime Commissioner.
I hope this is helpful.
Kindest regards
Godfrey Daniel
Labour Candidate - Sussex Police & Crime Commissioner
Sussex -David Rogers, Liberal Democrat
Dear Jasper Knight,
This issue is an operational one for the Chief Constable and his team. However, if elected, I would intend to discuss many issues with him as regard to priorities, in the light of research and the views of leading experts in the field. These include senior police officers in forces around the country, as well as scientists such as Professor David Nutt.
Regards,
David Rogers.
Excellent work Jasper, the more people who actually do things like this just might add more pressure to the PCC to actually listen to the evidence that is there for them in black and white.
The LibDem candidate for Avon and Somerset, Pete Levy, is sympathetic to drug law reform too: http://petelevy.org/2012/09/drugs-no-easy-option/ (note his replies in the comments.) The other three candidates standing in Avon and Somerset are either “tough on drugs” or make no mention drug laws, so there’s only one option if you live here!
I certainly will not be voting for this guy.
Devon and Cornwall Brian Blake Liberal Democrates
Hi My view on the current position on illegal drugs is this. As an ex copper I have seen those who deal misery and addiction to young people for their own profit are parasites feeding off the vunerable. I agree that based on medical evidence there is an argument for cannabis as a treatment for some conditions. Legalise drugs per se and Boots for example will be undercut on price by those who still wish to make a profit thus making it a revenue offence. What we must bear in mind that the same people who smuggle cannabis and the like also smuggle weapons and people. Make no mistake drug dealing is a nasty business I have in the past dealt with dealers who only interest is profit for themselves.
Regards Brian Blake
^^^ This idiot points out the problems with prohibition of cannabis … so supports more prohibition! People buy alcohol from licensed shops or pubs, they don’t buy bootleg liquor on the black market, why does he think people wouldn’t buy cannabis from say a licensed coffeeshop, as they have done in The Netherlands for the last few decades? He can’t spell properly either.
Hasve you had any reply from the two candidates for North Yorkshire?
Nice one but unfortunately I live in N Ireland where we will never be able to vote for a PCC and the majority of our politicians are small minded bigots
No reply from North Yorkshire as yet but here’s their contact details Julia Mulligan Con julia.mulligan@leedsconservatives.com
Ruth Potter Lab ruth@ruthpotter.org.uk
Fairly generic answers there. As expected really. A lot of them still lumping all ‘drugs’ under one roof, claiming they all cause crime, and not admitting the harm that putting cannabis on the black market does.
Dr Raj Chandran (Nottinghamshire) does have a section in his campaign leaflets that outline his support for increased activity in schools with the DARE program so we know he is keen on keeping drugs away from children. We should emphasise to him that legalisation would achieve this and support the aims of the DARE program.
As for those who suggest a Royal Commission or more research - WHY ? - it’s all been done several times over and ignored. So we should ask these people why the previous research was rejected or flawed and what would constitute valid research in their opinion ? At least Dr Chandran said there is little he can do about it because there is very little that PCCs can do about anything !
What do these candidates think about the damage done by Alcohol - which is a dangerous addictive drug and legal ?
well I am genuinly surprised by the positive reply’s of many of the candidates
One more thing if anyone says that alcohol should not be freely available based on merit but because of historical precedent or social convention it is - then they are in direct contravention of the misuse of drugs act (MDA). The MDA has a specific clause that says the categorisation of substances should not be based on historical or social bias but solely on the potential to cause harm. Successive Home Secretaries have also been in contravention of this clause as well.
Didn’t seem to get much of a response from Vera Baird QC as it seems she has no time if you’re not a Northumbrian…….however I am. As a member of NORML UK I would be happy to write myself and ask the same questions 😉
the response from cleveland is completely unnacceptable, i will be watching to see who gets elected but please dont let it be Sultan.